WFP: Finished pickles, and more on liberating trash.
I’ve decided to create a food labeling key, so that I can include all these details about some of our meals. I won’t do it all the time, but I thought it might streamline things when I do want to specify. So, here are the codes for the foods- feel free to weigh in if you think I’ve forgotten anything.
hg= home grown
L= locally grown/raised
LT= liberated trash. I considered calling this one D for dumpster, but liberated trash sounds better to me.
f= fermented
sb= store bought, unsure of origin
hm= homemade
What do you think? Any suggestions? I’m not including things like "organic" because it’s just too hard to tell really. I mean, everything I grow is organic, and most of the things I buy are too, but often things aren’t actually certified organic (it’s expensive to get certified), and so I’m just not going to include it as a label here. Just assume it is unless it’s LT, but even then we’re getting good quality stuff. Here, let’s try it out on this awesome meal we had earlier in the week. This was a slow cooked brisket (LT) with garlic (hg) and spices (sb), served on top of roasted potatoes (sb), apples (LT), and sauerkraut (hg/f/hm). We had it with a side salad made with spinach (sb), cherry tomatoes (LT), and a balsamic vinaigrette (LT). It was awesome.
How did that work? Also, here’s a question: Do you think it’s unethical to serve liberated trash to people who aren’t informed of the origin of said food? I mean, at first I thought it to be fine, because I know that it’s good- I mean, I’m feeding it to my kid and family, you know? We’re using our best judgement, and it’s really perfectly good food. I mean, the other day we got 3 quarts of olive oil, just because one bottle had broken in a case. So they threw them all out rather than rinse them off. Olive oil! We also won’t be getting meat/dairy when the weather warms up, etc., and we are just smart about it. There are a lot of apples and pears and oranges that we’re eating (usually thrown out because 1 has gone bad in the bag). But then the other day we were having Jeff’s sister over for dinner, and she specifically requested there to be no dumpster food in the meal. That got me thinking about it. I’m leaning towards it being fine not to tell people, because honestly, I’m more concerned about whether or not something is laden with pesticides or has been raised in a cruel and unethical way than I am about whether or not it expired that day. However, I consider it rude to pepper people with questions about food origins, especially when it’s being offered to me. I mean, it’s one thing if you have a food allergy/sensitivity/whatever, but I’m not going to turn my nose up at someone’s nicely prepared meal because they didn’t buy everything organic. Is this different? I’m not trying to be dishonest, but I’m just wondering if I truly need to have that conversation all the time. What do you think?
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Last week I began the process of pickling some carrots. This week… oh they are so nice! Take a look:
I kept them at room temp for about 4-5 days (it’s kind of cool in our kitchen), and then I transfered them to the fridge. The brine turned this beautiful red, a mix of the purple and orange carrots I began with. They smell sweet and very carrotty (oh it’s a word), and slightly sour… like a mild pickle!
I decided to try some today with my breakfast- a cheese omelette (LT/hg) with an apricot (LT). They were delicious! They were crunchy, sweet, slightly gingered and a little tart. I gave Vera one to try and she proceeded to steal the rest off of my plate. We both had second helpings. I mean, that’s a good thing when it inspires your 3 year old to steal them off your plate first thing in the morning and then ask for seconds. YUM!
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Looks YUMMY.
Don’t tell people!
I recommend you lie and say that you used to dumpster dive but not any more, because you heard that places have started poisoning the food.
Liberated trash! Love it. 🙂
I’m with you – if you have an allergy, ask away, but you don’t need to know every detail about where the food on my table comes from. If you’re weary about something, don’t eat it, but I consider such demands as from your SIL quite rude. :/
Oh, did I mention? We’re looking into getting chickens again! With the recent dioxin scandals here, it’s been super hard to get affordable organic eggs.
In spite of the snow day, I will NOT forget to call you later!
I don’t think it’s unethical not to share the origins of the food you prepare. I mean, I’m ethically opposed to Wal-mart, for example, but if someone prepares food for me, I’m not going to inquire as to whether any of the ingredients came from Wal-mart and then refuse to eat if they did, you know?
Fuck ’em, just don’t tell people. What’s that old addage i hardly ever agree with? “What they don’t know won’t hurt them?” — yeah, go with that one. Seriously, who comes to someones house for a meal and says rude things? That really sucks!
that would work for future guests but not to someone whom she has already fed some dumpster food.
for new people, she should just serve it, and not say glowingly “This came from the dumpster, isn’t that fabulous?!?”
for people she’s already fed some dumpster goodies, she should lie and say that she no longer does that. Or like you say, narrow the social circle.
That’s true, or maybe she could try and talk about why it’s not a big deal, or see what said persons issue with dumpstered food is.
wouldn’t it be great if everyone agreed with you and me?
I think it’s totally fine not to tell, and rather rude for folks to ask about the origins of a meal prepared for and served to them at someone’s house. I’d be much more worried about the sources of a fast-food meal than high-quality food prepared on it’s “expiration date” by someone I know and trust. Sheesh.
Not unethical at all. I don’t see myself ever liberate ‘trash’ because I’d be too squeamish to get in the dumpster and sort through but if I was eating at someone’s house who did that I wouldn’t dream of specifying they couldn’t serve me that food. If you trust someone enough to eat at their house then you should trust their judgement on the food they serve and assume they wouldn’t give you food that was going bad. I’d be much more worried about where the fast food comes from that people buy with impunity!
PS I made my first lacto-fermented pickles at the weekend inspired by you. Haven’t tasted them yet but I’m feeling very excited about them 🙂
Yay pickles! How did they turn out?
Amazing! Iwas reLy nervous as vie only ever pickled in vinegar before and I was worried they’d be too salty for me but I ended up with the best pickled beetroot I’ve ever tasted: sweet and crunchy and tangy and not at all salty. And also some delicious baby aubergines lacto fermented with chilli, celery and carrots.
i don’t know… my immediate thought would be that if you’re serving me food from a dumpster, i’d want to know it! but if you told me that you were serving me food from a dumpster, i’d ask: was it expired? how expired was it? why was it thrown out? has it been kept hot/cold? did you wash it first? (so basically, all the questions you’re already asking before you decide to serve it to your family) and then once i’d heard the answers, i’d feel much better and i’d go eat it. so i guess if i trust you to not want to poison me or your family, it wouldn’t make any difference if you told me and we went through that whole ordeal or if you just didn’t tell me in the first place. the outcome would be the same… yet still, the idea of eating food from a dumpster and not knowing it makes me squeamish. not very logical, huh?
On one hand I really like the whole liberated trash concept. On the other, I can see why someone would be squeamish about eating foods that came out of a dumpster. I am not sure what the answer is other than to keep in mind that some people aren’t always in the same place at the same time when it comes to something like this. Sometimes we have to meet people where they are, rather than where we want them to be.
I do have a question: You mentioned finding a bunch yogurt that was a day away from expiration. If it is about to go bad in a day, why get it? Sorry if it sounds silly…just curious.
Thanks for this feedback. As for the yogurt- it wasn’t going bad in a day. It was just expiring. It was perfectly good!